First Draft with Sarah Enni

First Draft Episode #183: Author and Illustrator Jon Klassen

 

Jon Klassen, Caldecott Award-winning and New York Times bestselling author and illustrator of the “I Want My Hat Back” series, as well as the illustrator of Sam and Dave Dig a Hole and Extra Yarn by Mac Barnett; The Dark by Lemony Snicket; House Held Up by Trees by Ted Kooser; Cats' Night Out by Caroline Stutson; and many more. Find him on Twitter, Instagram, and Tumblr!

Circle, the third and final book in Barnett and Klassen’s “Triangle, Circle, and Square” series, is available now where books are sold!

In the course of our conversation, Jon and I discuss how his early experience as a set designer changed how he thought about picture book audiences, why he felt that painting objects or animals had as much emotional impact as human characters, and how the personal arc of his best-known series, I Want My Hat Back, went from ironic detachment to artistic earnestness.

 

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Lilliam Rivera, author of THE EDUCATION OF MARGOT SANCHEZ, is back with DEALING IN DREAMS, out now!  She talks about writing a Latinx future, entering a room with hope, and getting to meet Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor.

 

Lilliam Rivera 2.0 Show Notes

Lilliam’s first interview on First Draft here

Ingrid Rojas Contreras, author of FRUIT OF THE DRUNKEN TREE

Amerie

Zareen Jaffrey, executive editor at Simon & Schuster

Anderson Cooper

A Clockwork Orange by Anthony Burgess

A Clockwork Orange (movie)

The Outsiders by S.E. Hinton

The Warriors (movie)

Mad Max Fury Road (movie)

Ray Bradbury

Justice Sonia Sotomayor

Pablo Cartaya, author of MARCUS VEGA DOESN’T SPEAK SPANISH

Veronica Roth (listen to her First Draft podcasts here and here)

Meg Medina

Matt de la Pena

Direct download: Lilliam_Rivera_FINAL.mp3
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Soman Chainani, New York Times bestselling author of the SCHOOL FOR GOOD AND EVIL series, including the most recent A CRYSTAL OF TIME (out today!) talks about the insidiousness of triumphant good, how tutoring taught him discipline, and the epic battle of Serena Williams versus Maria Sharapova.

 

Soman Chainani Show Notes

The Ramona series by Beverly Cleary

Interview with the Vampire by Anne Rice

Renee Ahdieh, author of The Wrath & the Dawn series and Flame in the Mist (listen to her First Draft podcast here)

50 Shades of Grey by E.L. James

Twilight by Stephenie Meyer

Cinderella Ate me Daughter by Peggy Orenstein

Soman’s appearance on the Tim Ferriss podcast

Maria Sharapova

Serena Williams

Tiger Woods

Charlie and the Chocolate Factory by Roald Dahl

Language of Thorns by Leigh Bardugo (listen to her First Draft interviews here and here)

The Fault in Our Stars by John Green

The Fault in Our Stars (movie)

Becky Albertalli, author of SIMON VERSUS THE HOMO SAPIENS AGENDA (listen to her First Draft interview here)

Love, Simon (movie)

Miss Peregrine’s Home for Peculiar Children (movie)

To All the Boys I’ve Loved Before by Jenny Han
To All the Boys I’ve Loved Before (movie)

Direct download: Soman_Chainani_FINAL.mp3
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Sarah Enni, debut author of TELL ME EVERYTHING and usually the host of the First Draft podcast, answers questions from past First Draft interviewees about craft and ego, staying on schedule, Bob Costas’ pink-eye story, the evolution of her interview style, Hammer the cat’s origin story.

 

Sarah Enni bonus episode show notes

Maurene Goo (listen to her First Draft episode here)

Nic Stone, author of DEAR MARTIN and ODD ONE OUT (listen to her First Draft podcast here)

Kristen Kittscher, author of WIG IN THE WINDOW and TIARA ON THE TERRACE (listen to her First Draft podcast here)

Bullet journal

Allie Brosh’s comics about procrastination

Shane Pangburn (listen to his First Draft podcast here)

Kate Hart, author of AFTER THE FALL (listen to Kate Hart’s First Draft interview here)

Bob Costas

Tochi Onyebuchi, BEASTS MADE OF NIGHT and CROWN OF THUNDER (listen to his First Draft podcast here)

The Deftones, lead singer Chino Moreno

The Darkness, “I Believe in a Thing Called Love”

Victoria Aveyard, author of the RED QUEEN series (listen to her First Draft episodes here and here)

Margaret Stohl, BEAUTIFUL CREATURES and CATS VS. ROBOTS (listen to her First Draft episode here)

Jasmine Warga, author of HERE WE ARE NOW and (listen to her First Draft episode here)

Libba Bray, author of THE DIVINERS (listen to her First Draft episodes here and here)

Pod Save America (podcast)

Danielle Paige, DOROTHY MUST DIE and STEALING SNOW (listen to her First Draft episode here)

Arrested Development

Stephanie Kuehn, author of CHARM & STRANGE (listen to her First Draft podcast here)

“Welcome to New York,” by Taylor Swift

Peter Stone, author of THE PERFECT CANDIDATE (listen to his First Draft episode here)

Kumail Nanjiani (actor, Silicon Valley)

Sabaa Tahir, author of the EMBER IN THE ASHES series (listen to her First Draft episode here)

Sam Maggs, author of GIRL SQUADS and more (listen to her First Draft episode here)

Alison Cherry, author of RED and PROS OF CONS and more (listen to her First Draft episodes here and here)

Pod Save America (podcast)

NPR Politics podcast (podcast)

The Daily (podcast)

Keep It (podcast)

Serial (podcast)

S-Town (podcast)

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Beth Revis, author of the ACROSS THE UNIVERSE series and the GIVE THE DARK MY LOVE series (listen to her First Draft podcast here)

The Bigfoot Discovery Museum

Kitchen’s Temple

Jeff Goldblum

Leigh Bardugo, author of the SHADOW AND BONE and SIX OF CROWS series, and her upcoming book, NINTH HOUSE (listen to her First Draft interviews here and here)

Kaitlin Ward, author of WHERE SHE FELL (listen to her First Draft podcast interview here)

Brandy Colbert, author of LITTLE AND LION and THE REVOLUTION OF BIRDIE RANDOLPH (listen to her First Draft interviews here and here)

Aminah Mae Safi, author of the upcoming TELL ME HOW YOU REALLY FEEL (listen to her First Draft interview here)

Kayla Cagan, author of PIPER PERISH and ART BOSS (listen to her First Draft interview here)

Susan Dennard, author of the WITCHLANDS series (listen to her First Draft interview here)

Ameriie, editor of the BECAUSE YOU LOVE TO HATE ME anthology and she recently released two albums, 4 AM MULHOLLAND and AFTER 4 AM


Sara Farizan, author of HERE TO STAY (listen to her First Draft interview here)

Direct download: QA_FINAL.mp3
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Sarah Enni, debut author of TELL ME EVERYTHING and usually the host of the First Draft podcast, answers questions from fellow YA writer Maurene Goo! Sarah shares her lengthy path to publishing, the role of humor and tone in contemporary fiction, her outlining process, and the one cross-country flight that changed everything.

 

Sarah Enni Show Notes

Maurene Goo, author of the upcoming SOMEWHERE ONLY WE KNOW and THE WAY YOU MAKE ME FEEL, I BELIEVE IN A THING CALLED LOVE, and SINCE YOU ASKED

The Giver by Lois Lowry

Lord of the Flies by William Golding

Lord of the Rings by J. R. R. Tolkien

Xenon: Girl of the 21st Century (movie)

Twilight by Stephenie Meyer

YALLWEST

Zan Romanoff (listen to her First Draft podcast here)

Seattle Metropolitan

Washington Business Journal

American Lion by Jon Meacham

The Hunger Games by Suzanne Collins

The Sky is Everywhere by Jandy Nelson

Sara Zarr (listen to her First Draft podcast here)

Ameriie

Interstellar (movie)

Tahereh Mafi (listen to her FIrst Draft interview here)

Kate Hart (listen to her First Draft interview here)

Kaitlin Ward (listen to her First Draft interview here)

Stephanie Kuehn (listen to her First Draft interview here)

Kirsten Hubbard (listen to her First Draft interview here)

YA Highway

Sarah Burnes (listen to her First Draft interview here)

Amanda Maciel (listen to her First Draft interview here)

Lorde

Local Natives

DJDS “Trees on Fire”

Jeff Goldblum

Veronica Roth (listen to her First Draft podcasts here and here)
Never Been Kissed (movie)

Direct download: Sarah_Enni_FINAL.mp3
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Amanda Maciel Show Notes

TELL ME EVERYTHING by Sarah Enni

TEASE by Amanda Maciel

LUCKY GIRL by Amanda Maciel

Post Secret (social media site)

Michelle Schusterman

David Levithan

Emergency Contact by Mary H. K. Choi

Nina Goffi

Eleanor and Park by Rainbow Rowell

Direct download: Amanda_Maciel_FINAL.mp3
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Sarah Burnes, literary agent with The Gernert Company. She has been my agent since 2013. I loved what Sarah had to say about her approach to the slush pile, the myth of work-life balance, and her “no assholes” rule.

 

Sarah Burnes Show Notes

The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants by Ann Brashares

Gossip Girl by Cecily von Ziegesar

Alloy book packaging company

Zan Romanoff (Listen to her First Draft episode here)

Beautiful Creatures by Margaret Stohl and Kami Garcia

Pseudonymous Bosch

Jon Gertner

Witches of America by Alex Marr

Shirley Jackson: A Rather Haunted Life by  Ruth Franklin

Diary of a Wimpy Kid by Jeff Kinney

Twilight by Stephenie Meyer

Vicki Lame, editor at St. Martin’s

Evvie Drake Starts Over by Linda Holmes

What If This Were Enough by Heather Havrilesky

Amanda Maciel, editor at Scholastic

Direct download: Sarah_Burnes_FINAL.mp3
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Susan Dennard is the New York Times bestselling author of the SOMETHING STRANGE AND DEADLY series and THE WITCHLANDS series. Her newest novel in that series, BLOODWITCH, is out February 12.

 

Susan Dennard Show Notes

Susan’s wikipedia page

Book of Three by Lloyd Alexander

Cinder by Marissa Meyer

Shadow and Bone by Leigh Bardugo (hear her First Draft interviews here and here)

Throne of Glass by Sarah J. Maas

Paul Scheer (host of How Did This Get Made)

Joanna Volpe, literary agent at New Leaf Literary

Harper Collins

Tor

Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan

Anne McCaffrey

Misfits & Daydreamers (Susan’s newsletter) and her writing about writing and life

The Four Tendencies by Gretchen Rubin

The Happiness Project by Gretchen Rubin

Alexandra Bracken

The Silicon Valley Suicides,” by Hanna Rosin

Avatar: The Last Airbender

Assassin’s Creed

Holes by Louis Sachar

The FRIENDS episode where Joey and Phoebe try to find a truly selfless act

National Novel Writing Month

Direct download: Susan_Dennard_FINAL.mp3
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Robin LaFevers, author of the New York Times bestselling HIS FAIR ASSASSINS series, talks about the memories that live on in our bodies, the downside to critique groups, and how writing her breakout series retriggered old trauma--sidelining her ability to write for more than a year. She worked her way, physically and emotionally, back to write the latest in the series, COURTING DARKNESS, out February 5, 2019.

 

Robin LaFevers Show Notes

The Chronicles of Narnia by C.S. Lewis

Charge of the Light Brigade by Alfred, Lord Tennyson

Writer Unboxed

SCBWI

RWA (Romance Writers of America)

Crystal Cave by Mary Stewart

Jesus Camp (documentary)

Donald Maass (agent and author of Writing the Breakout Novel)


Leigh Bardugo (listen to her First Draft episodes here and here)

Direct download: Robin_LaFever_FINAL.mp3
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Renée Watson, New York Times bestselling author of PIECING ME TOGETHER a Newberry Honor book and winner of the Coretta Scott King award, THIS SIDE OF HOME, and many others, and co-author of WATCH US RISE, out February 12. Renée is also founder and executive director of the I, Too Arts Foundation, a non-profit organization housed in the home of legendary poet Langston Hughes, committed to nurturing voices from underrepresented communities in the creative arts.

 

Renée Watson Show Notes

Renée Watson’s first First Draft interview

I, Too Arts Collective

Dreamyard

Community Word Project

A Place Where Hurricanes Happen by Renee Watson

Langston Hughes

Kate Messner (author)

Kendolyn Walker, program director at I, Too

Jennifer Baker, social media director at I, Too and co-host of the Minorities in Publishing podcast

Ellice Lee, graphic designer for I, Too and Associate Art Director of Philomel, Penguin Random House

Tracey Baptiste

SCORE, the nation’s largest network of volunteer, expert business mentors

Ellen Hagan, poet and co-author of WATCH US RISE
Black Enough, an anthology edited by Ibi Zoboi

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Roshani Chokshi, New York Times bestselling author of THE STAR-TOUCHED QUEEN, CROWN OF WISHES, and the ARU SHAH series talks about the first book in her latest young adult series, THE GILDED WOLVES, out January 15. She talks about connecting to her history through fairy tales, how being voted most likely to succeed caused a lot of angst, and the pressure of picking an AIM away message.

 

Roshani Chokshi Show Notes

Mists of Avalon by Marion Zimmer Bradley

Jhumpa Lahiri

AFI (band)

Thursday (band)

Deftones (band)

Harry Potter

Sailor Moon (cartoon)

Christiane Amanpour (TV broadcast journalism)

His Girl Friday

Gone with the Wind by Margaret Mitchell (book)

The Young Elites by Marie Lu (listen to her First Draft interviews here and here)

Rick Riordan

His Dark Materials trilogy by Philip Pullman

Stormrunner by J. C. Cervantes

Stephanie Lurie, Editorial Director, Rick Riordan Presents (Disney-Hyperion)

Claire Legrand (listen to her First Draft interview here)

National Treasure (movie)

Lara Croft (video game character)

“Venus in Furs” a song by The Velvet Underground

Holly Black (listen to her First Draft interview here)

Radiance by Catherynne Valente

Deathless by Catherynne Valente

Tomb Raider (movie)

The Librarian (movie)

The Mummy (movie)

Dan Brown

Direct download: Roshani_Chokshi_FINAL.mp3
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Tracey Neithercott, author of Gray Wolf Island, talks about being inspired by unsolved mysteries and real life treasure hunters, how writing shapes our identities, and how she wrote her debut book while dealing with a life-altering chronic pain diagnosis.

 

Tracey Neithercott Show Notes

The Bodyguard (movie)

Whitney Houston

Great Expectations by Charles Dickens

Dawson’s Creek (TV show)

Kiersten White (listen to her First Draft interview here)

Absolute Write

The Fault in Our Stars by John Green

Sarah LaPolla, literary agent

Stand By Me (movie)

Oak Island

Astonishing Legends podcast about Oak Island

Forrest Fenn (antiquities dealer who buried a treasure)

When Dimple Met Rishi by Sandhya Menon (listen to her First Draft interview here)

Scrivener
Tahereh Mafi (listen to her First Draft interview here)

Direct download: Tracey_Neithercott_FINAL.mp3
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Melissa Albert, New York Times bestselling author of The Hazel Wood and its forthcoming sequel, as well as Tales from the Hinterlands, talks about stuffing her debut book with secret book recommendations, the borderlessness of being a young reader, and loving angry girls in fiction.

 

Melissa Albert Show Notes

Vera Nabokov

The Baby-Sitters Club by Ann M. Martin

Lolita

Hollywood Babylon by Kenneth Anger

The Chronicles of Narnia by C.S. Lewis

Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams

Thomas the Rhymer by Ellen Kushner

Wise Child by Monica Furlong

Peter Pan by J.M. Barrie

Hook (movie)

Charles de Lint

Helen Oyeyemi

Philip Pullman’s Grimm Brothers translation

Roshani Chokshi’s forthcoming trio of novellas

Her Body and Other Parties by Carmen Maria Machado

Kelly Link

Language of Thorns by Leigh Bardugo (listen to her First Draft episodes here and here)

Tales of the Peculiar by Ransom Riggs (listen to his First Draft interview here)

Flannery O’Connor

Time Out Chicago

A Spark of Light (Barnes & Noble exclusive edition)

Barnes & Noble YA Blog

The Hunger Games by Suzanne Collins

Akata Witch by Nnedi Okorafor

Eleanor and Park by Rainbow Rowell

Feed by M. T. Anderson

Daughter of Smoke and Bone by Laini Taylor (listen to her First Draft interview here)

Francesca Lia Block (listen to her First Draft interview here)

His Hideous Heart by Dahlia Adler

Working Partners (work for hire book company in England)

George Saunders essay about what writers really do when they write

Sadie by Courtney Summers (listen to her First Draft interview here)

The Cruel Prince by Holly Black

The Twilight Zone (TV show)

Radiance by Catherynne Valente

The Lord of the Rings by J. R. R. Tolkien

Romeo + Juliet (movie)

Love Lists, a blog post by Stephanie Perkins

Emma Chastain, writer

The North Texas Teen Book Festival

Welcome to Night Vale (podcast)

The Magicians Trilogy by Lev Grossman

The Boneless Mercies by April Genevieve Tucholke

Ira Glass
A Great and Terrible Beauty by Libba Bray (listen to her First Draft interviews here and here)

Direct download: Melissa_Albert_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 9:53am PDT

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