First Draft with Sarah Enni

Sarah Dessen, #1 New York Times bestselling author of ONCE AND FOR ALL, JUST LISTEN, THE TRUTH ABOUT FOREVER and many more. Her newest novel, THE REST OF THE STORY, will come out in June 2019.


Sarah Dessen Show Notes

Jackie Collins

Stephen King

Mary Higgins Clark

Maurene Goo (listen to her First Draft interviews here, here, and here)

Alexander London (listen to his First Draft interviews here and here)

Melissa Walker

Doris Betts (writing teacher at UNC)

John Green

Jodi Picoult

A Spool of Blue Thread by Anne Tyler

Lee Smith (author)

Save the Date by Morgan Matson (listen to her First Draft interviews here and here)

Sarah Dessen’s 2013 blog post about pulling a book

The Hilarious World of Depression podcast episode featuring NPR’s Linda Holmes

Shakespeare in Love (movie)

J.K Rowling

The Bustle article about Sarah Dessen’s tweet convo with JK Rowling

The Fault in Our Stars by John Green

Harlan Cohen

Direct download: Sarah_Dessen_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 10:16am PDT

Elana K. Arnold, author of YA books Damsel, What Girls Are Made Of, Infandous, and Middle Grade series A Boy Called Bat, and many more, talks about working until the book feels worthy, reusing structure, and uncovering a deep well of rage in her writing.


Elana K. Arnold Show Notes 2.0

Elana’s first First Draft interview

His Dark Materials books by Philip Pullman

Martha Brockenbrough, author of Unpresidented
An Ordinary Day by Elana K. Arnold (picture book coming out next year)

Direct download: Elana_K_Arnold_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 8:38am PDT

Nina LaCour, author of We Are Okay, winner of the 2018 Printz Award, and other contemporary YA titles like Everything Leads to You and Hold Still, joins me to talk about how she’s expanding her teaching role with The Slow Novel Lab, and an exciting new podcast venture called Keeping a Notebook.


Nina LaCour Show Notes

Nina LaCour’s first First Draft interview

Lorde’s album Pure Heroine

We Are Okay

Nina’s interview on Yin Chang’s podcast, 88 Cups of Tea

Alfred Hitchcock

The Castle of Otranto, a 1764 novel by Horace Walpole

Virginia Woolf

Jane Eyre

Wuthering Heights

Frida Kahlo (Artist)

Everything Leads to You by Nina LaCour

Keeping a Notebook (and the episode featuring Sarah Enni)

The Slow Novel Lab

“On Keeping a Notebook” by Joan Didion

Sara Zarr’s podcast This Creative Life

NaNoWriMo (National Novel Writing Month)

Save the Cat



Nina’s short story in the Foreshadow YA online YA anthology collection

Writing the Breakout Novel: Worksheets by Donald Maass

Hamline low residency MFA program

Direct download: Nina_LaCour_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 7:41am PDT

Peter Stone, debut author of THE PERFECT CANDIDATE, talks about his time in Washington (before the onset of the 24-hour news cycle), how interns run the world, and how writing a speech for his wife led him to finally try a novel.


Peter Stone Show Notes

The Firm by John Grisham



Watergate (for more, listen to Slow Burn Season 1)

Monica Lewinsky (for more, listen to Slow Burn Season 2)

Chandra Levy

The My Favorite Murder podcast episode about Chandra Levy’s death

The NPR Politics podcast

The Wilderness (by Crooked Media)

JonBenet Ramsey

Laci Peterson

Newt Gingrich

Old Ebbitt Grill (bar in Washington, D.C.)

The Beautiful Creatures series by Kami Garcia and Margaret Stohl (listen to her First Draft interviews here and here)

The Robert Mueller Investigation

George Papadopoulos

Edward Snowden

Whitewater (for more, listen to Slow Burn Season 2)

Vince Foster (for more, listen to Slow Burn Season 2)

House of Cards (TV show)

Scandal (TV show)

The Pelican Brief (movie)

The Hunt for Red October (movie)

Ben’s Chili Bowl (restaurant in D.C.)

Tortilla Coast (restaurant in D.C.)

Kramerbooks & Afterwords Cafe

Neil Gaiman’s quote about writing while inspired

Direct download: Peter_Stone_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 8:18am PDT

Holly Black, Newberry Honoree and New York Times bestselling author of many things, including many series such as the SPIDERWICK CHRONICLES, THE CURSE WORKER, MAGISTERIUM, and her most recent series, FOLK OF THE AIR. The latest book in that series, THE WICKED KING, comes out January 8—the tour dates to support that book were just released on Hypable today!

Holly Black Show Notes


Tony DiTerlizzi, her artist for Spiderwick Chronicles

Faeries by Brian Froud and Alan Lee



Third Eye Blind

The Lord of the Rings by J.R.R. Tolkien

Interview With a Vampire by Anne Rice

Kevin Lewis (editor, Simon & Schuster)

Sabriel by Garth Nix

Tamora Pierce

Cassandra Clare

Kiersten White (listen to her First Draft interview here)

Dhonielle Clayton (listen to her First Draft interviews here and here)

Office Smart

A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L’Engle

Kelly Link

Dante’s Inferno


Direct download: Holly_Black_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 9:50am PDT

Robin Talley—author of LIES WE TELL OURSELVES, WHAT WE LEFT BEHIND, AS I DESCENDED, OUR OWN PRIVATE UNIVERSE—talks about her newest novel, PULP. Robin shares insight about transitioning into being a full-time writer and stay-at-home mom, writing a Judy Blume book for queer girls, and writing books with her younger self in mind.


Robin Talley Show Notes

Robin’s previous First Draft episode

Simon Versus the Homo Sapiens Agenda by Becky Albertalli (listen to her First Draft episode here)

Dahlia Adler



Forever by Judy Blume

Love, Simon (movie)

Ann Bannon (famous lesbian pulp author)

Spring Fire by Marijane Meeker

The Price of Salt by Patricia Highsmith

Carol (movie)

The Lavender Scare

Lambda Literary Foundation

All Out edited by Saundra Mitchell

A Tyranny of Petticoats edited by Jessica Spotswood (listen to her First Draft episode here)

Robin’s short stories

Direct download: Robin_Talley_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 8:31am PDT

Andy Weir, New York Times best-selling author of THE MARTIAN and his new stand-alone Sci-Fi novel, ARTEMIS. This interview is a live recording of the in-conversation I had with Andy for New York Comic Con. I loved hearing Andy talk about moon economies, managing anxiety, and how science makes his books living documents.


Andy Weir Show Notes

The Martian (movie)

Matt Damon playing Brett Kavanaugh on SNL

Neil Degrasse Tyson

Andy’s Business Insider article on the economy of a moon colony

Direct download: Andy_Weir_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 8:48am PDT

Bea and Leah Koch, two sisters who co-own The Ripped Bodice, the only brick and mortar bookstore in the U.S. to sell exclusively romance titles, who were named 2017 RWA Steffie Walker Booksellers of the Year by the Romance Writers of America and recently struck an overall deal with Sony Pictures. I loved what Bea and Leah had to say about being activist booksellers, retraining romance readers, and becoming advocates for representation and change in publishing.

Bea and Leah Koch, owners of The Ripped Bodice, Show Notes

Women and Children First (bookstore in Illinois)

The Ripped Bodice Kickstarter

Preeti Chhibber (of Scholastic)

Word bookstore’s Romance Book Club

Greenlight (bookstore in Brooklyn)

Ashley C. Ford (author and editor running the Green Light romance book club)

The Ripped Bodice State of Racial Diversity in Romance Publishing Report (2016 and 2017) (The New York Times artiicle detailing the report’s findings, “In Love With Romance Novels, But Not Their Lack of Diversity”)

Vivian Stevens (editor of romance novels)

Beverly Jenkins (romance author)

RWA (Romance Writers Association)

The Los Angeles Times Festival of Books (listen to Associate Director of Event Programming for LATFoB, Maret Orliss, here)

Direct download: Ripped_Bodice_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 7:28am PDT

Tiffany D. Jacksonauthor of ALLEGEDLY, whose latest book, MONDAY’S NOT COMING, is out now! Her next book, LET ME HEAR A RHYME, is due out May 21, 2019!—talks about still considering herself a newbie writer, the allure of horror stories, and being honest about the emotions of publishing.


Tiffany Jackson Show Notes


There’s Someone Inside Your House by Stephanie Perkins


Get Out (movie)

American Marriage by Tayari Jones

Direct download: Tiffany_Jackson_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 9:04am PDT

Laini Taylor is a National Book Award finalist for Lips Touch Three Times, New York Times bestseller for the Daughter of Smoke and Bone series, and Printz Honoree for Strange the Dreamer and its sequel, Muse of Nightmares, out now!


Laini Taylor Show Notes

John Grisham

Clan of the Cave Bear by Jean M. Auel

Victoria Aveyard (listen to her First Draft interviews here and here)

Jim di Bartolo, illustrator and Laini’s husband


The National Book Award

Arthur Levine, publisher at Scholastic

In the Shadows by Kiersten White and Jim di Bartolo

Printz Award

Laini’s Ladies

Sarah Dessen

Victoria Schwab (listen to her First Draft podcast here)

Holly Black

Cassie Clare

Sarah Rees Brennan

Kelly Link

Libba Bray (listen to her First Draft podcasts here and here)

Maurene Goo (listen to her First Draft podcasts here and here and here)

Gentleman and Phantoms, Laini’s story which appears in the Foretold anthology

The Girl Who Woke the Dreamer, Laini’s story which appears in the My True Love Gave to Me anthology

Direct download: LainiTaylor_FINAL_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 9:38am PDT

Tochi Onyebuchi, author of CROWN OF THUNDER, the second book in the BEASTS MADE OF NIGHT series--which is out now--talks about the audacity of new writers’ ideas, writing himself and his family into a book for the first time, and being an award-winning witness.


Tochi Onyebuchi Show Notes

The Los Angeles TImes Festival of Books (listen to my interview with the festival’s Associate Director of Events Programming, Maret Orliss, here)


Linkin Park

The Wikipedia entry of Nigerian-Americans

Lie Down In Darkness by William Styron

Frankenstein by Mary Shelley

The Federalist Papers by Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay

Renee Ahdieh (listen to her First Draft interview here)

Akira by Katsuhiro Otomo (manga)

The Raft of the Medusa by Théodore Géricault

Eugène Delacroix, French Romantic artist

Sabaa Tahir (listen to her First Draft podcast here)

Marie Lu (listen to her First Draft podcast interviews here and here)

Leigh Bardugo (listen to her FIrst Draft podcast interview here)

Black Panther (movie)


Lagoon by Nnedi Okorafor

Children of Blood and Bone by Tomi Adeyemi (listen to her First Draft podcast here)

John Cheever

Mad Men (TV show)
Paul Thomas Anderson (filmmaker)

Direct download: Tochi_Onyebuchi_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 9:36am PDT

Sam Maggs, author of A FANGIRL’S GUIDE TO THE GALAXY: A Handbook for Geek Girls and WONDER WOMEN: 25 Innovators, Inventors, and Trailblazers Who Changed History, talks about her most recent book, GIRL SQUADS, a non-fiction collection of 20 female friendships that changed history. Sam shares the Google search that kicked off the new book, the surprising (and alarming) stories she stumbled on while researching GIRL SQUADS, and deploying her pronunciation skills for the audiobook.


Sam Maggs Show Notes


The Ripped Bodice bookstore in Culver City, CA


Wonder Women by Sam Maggs


Zohra, the all-female orchestra in Afghanistan


1964 Japanese women’s volleyball team

Magical Beatdown by Jen Woodall, illustrator

Direct download: Sam_Maggs_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 10:03am PDT

Nic Stone, New York Times bestselling author of DEAR MARTIN, talks about her newest young adult novel, ODD ONE OUT, out October 9! Nic talks about lies of imagination versus lies of convenience,  “high taste” readers, and the benefits of eavesdropping.


Nic Stone Show Notes


Aru Shah and the End of Time by Roshani Chokshi

Brandy Colbert (listen to her First Draft interviews here and here)

Spelman College

Mirrors, Windows, and Sliding Glass Doors,” a friendship theory by Rudine Sims Bishop

Christopher Myers and Chris Jackson, publishers of their own imprints at Random House

Kwame Alexander

Mae Carol Jemison (Astronaut)

The Percy Jackson series by Rick Riordan

The Kane Chronicles by Rick Riordan

The Hunger Games by Suzanne Collins

Divergent by Veronica Roth (listen to her First Draft interviews here and here)

Delirium by Lauren Oliver

Requiem by Lauren Oliver

John Green

Small Great Things by Jodi Picoult

Beverly Daniel Tatum, PhD. (president of Spellman University)

Sarah Dessen

Rena Rossner (NIc Stone’s agent at The Deborah Harris Agency)

Phoebe Yeh, Nic’s editor

Jordan Davis, a young black man killed in Florida over loud music

Walter Dean Myers

Eliezer "Elie" Wiesel

Ta-Nehisi Coates

The Beauty that Remains by Ashley Woodfolk

Aminah Mae Safi (listen to her First Draft podcast here)

Mindy Kaling

Direct download: Nic_Stone_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 8:48am PDT

Alex London--author of the Proxy Series, the Wild Ones series, and more, about his new young adult novel, BLACK WINGS BEATING--talks about the patriarchal influence on narrative structure, considering queer heroism, being terrified of coming back to YA, and why Jonathan Franzen owes him a thank you note.


Alex London Show Notes

Alex London’s first episode of First Draft

The Wild Ones

Junior Library Guild

The Adventures of Wrong Man and Power Girl

Hope Nation edited by Rose Brock

Ursula K. le Guin

H is for Hawk by Helen McDonald

The Once and Future King by T. H. White

Mike Dupuy Hawk Food

Mary Fran Rash, Owner of Main Street Books in St. Charles, MO


Adam Gidwitz

Neal Shusterman

Jason Reynolds
Will Kostakis (listen to his First Draft episode here)

Direct download: Alex_London_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 9:19am PDT

Sara Farizan, author of IF YOU COULD BE MINE and TELL ME AGAIN HOW A CRUSH SHOULD FEEL, talks about her newest novel, HERE TO STAY, out now! Sara talks about love as a human rights issue, writing action sequences, and why she chose not to write in Charles Barkley’s voice.


Sara Farizan Show Notes

New England Mobile Book Fair

James and the Giant Peach by Roald Dahl

Sesame Street

The Office (TV show)

The Weight of Ink by Rachel Kadish

John Irving

When Dimple Met Rishi by Sandhya Menon (listen to her First Draft interview here)

Maurene Goo (listen to her First Draft interviews here and here and here)

Books, Inc. (bookstore in SF)

Reggie Miller (former NBA player and commentator)

Kevin Harlan (NBA commentator)

The murder of Deah Shaddy Barakat, Yusor Mohammad Abu-Salha, and Razan Mohammad Abu-Salha in Chapel Hill, N.C.

Matthew Shepard

Stephen Curry (NBA player)

Charles Barkley (NBA player)

Daria Morgendorffer (Daria TV show)

Direct download: SaraFarizan_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 7:42am PDT

Nova Ren Suma, New York Times bestselling author of The Walls Around Us, Imaginary Girls, and more, talks about her newest novel, A Room Away From the Wolves, out now! Nova shares what she learned from ghostwriting, talks about finding New York through the myths of her mother, and talks about discovering her strange self.


Nova Ren Suma show notes

Imaginary Girls

Margaret Atwood

Fear of Flying by Erica Jong

Mary Higgins Clark

Antioch College

Feathered by Laura Kasischke

Francesca Lia Block (listen to her First Draft episode here)

Laura Ruby

Bennett Madison

The MacDowell Colony

Micol Ostow (author)

Kate Angelella (editor at Simon and Schuster)

Good Morning Midnight by Jean Rhys

Yaddo (artist’s colony)

Poets & Writers magazine

Direct download: NovaRenSuma_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 8:20am PDT

Courtney Summers, author of many books including CRACKED UP TO BE, THIS IS NOT A TEST, ALL THE RAGE, and her newest novel which comes out today, SADIE, talks about not wanting to do a book a year again, seeing her career shift 10 years in, how she thinks about her abrupt endings, sticking with the heart of the novel, and podcasts.


Courtney Summers 2.0 Show Notes


Hear Courtney’s first First Draft interview (with bonus Veronica Roth) here!


Serial (podcast)

S Town (podcast)

Sara Goodman, Courtney’s editor at Wednesday Books (listen to her First Draft interview here)

Emily Hainsworth (author)

Interstellar (movie)

Maurene Goo (listen to her First Draft interviews here and here and here)

Tell Me Everything by Sarah Enni

Direct download: CourtneySummers_final_mix.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 12:00am PDT

Somaiya Daud, debut author of YA sci-fi book MIRAGE, was the very first author I ever interviewed for First Draft Podcast. We had a lot to catch up on since then, so listen now to hear about Somaiya’s bumpy path to publication, the way race plays into our concepts of the future and, of course, Star Wars!


Somaiya Daud Show Notes


Somaiya Daud’s first interview with First Draft Podcast

J. R. R. Tolkien

William Gibson

Oliver Twist by Charles Dickens

Emma by Jane Austen

One Thousand and One Nights



Star Wars

Alloy Entertainment

Chelsea Grimmer

The Poetry Vlog

Somaiya Daud on The Poetry Vlog

Provincializing Europe by Dipesh Chakrabarty

Ex Machina (film)

The Jetsons

Joanna Volpe

Direct download: SomaiyaDaud_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 12:00am PDT



Jessica Spotswood Show Notes

Little Women by Louisa May Alcott

Michele Volanksy, Dean of Dramaturgy at Washington College

The Laramie Project (play)

Anne of Green Gables by Lucy Maud Montgomery

Twilight by Stephenie Meyer

Vampire Academy by Richelle Mead

A Great and Terrible Beauty by Libba Bray

Gone with the Wind by Margaret Mitchell

Ira Glass’s quote on creativity

Tiffany Schmidt

Jessica’s Reddit AMA about editing anthologies

Slasher Girls and Monster Boys edited by April Genevieve Tucholke

Beth Revis (listen to her First Draft interview here)

Andrea Creamer

Marie Lu (listen to her First Draft interviews here and here)

Saundra Mitchell

Carrie Ryan

Caroline Tung Richmond (listen to her First Draft podcast here)

Lindsay Smith (listen to her First Draft podcast here)

Robin Talley (listen to her First Draft podcast here)

Y. S. Lee

Kekla Magoon

Leslye Walton

Tess Sharpe

Direct download: JessicaSpotswood_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 7:53am PDT

Julian Winters, author of RUNNING WITH LIONS, talks about starting to write so he could create happy endings for his own life, being more creative when working at night, wanting to chuck the rulebook, and his nontraditional publishing journey.


Julian Winters Show Notes

One Direction

Felicity (TV show)

Scandal (TV show)

Scott Foley

Kirsten Hubbard (listen to her First Draft podcast here)

Sara Farizan (author of IF YOU COULD BE MINE and TELL ME AGAIN HOW A CRUSH SHOULD FEEL and the forthcoming HERE TO STAY)

BOY MEETS BOY by David Levithan

Robbie Rogers (out soccer player)

Nic Stone (author of DEAR MARTIN and the forthcoming ODD ONE OUT)

INTO THE BLUE by Pene Henson

LUCHADOR by Erin Finnegan

Becky Albertalli, author of SIMON VERSUS THE HOMO SAPIENS AGENDA (listen to her First Draft podcast here)

Patrice Caldwell

Simon James Green, author of NOAH CAN’T EVEN

Adam Silvera (listen to his First Draft interview here)

Direct download: JulianWinters_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 10:15am PDT

Katie Cotugno, author of HOW TO LOVE, FIREWORKS, TOP TEN, and 99 DAYS and its sequel, 9 DAYS AND 9 NIGHTS, talks about the correlation between how she’s feeling and whether she’s writing, her ten-year debut novel, and making sense in the quiet after the loud.

Katie Cotugno Show Notes

The Baby-Sitters Club

Sweet Valley High

The Saddle Club

Roald Dahl

Judy Blume

Maurene Goo (listen to her First Draft interviews here and here and here!)

Robin Benway (listen to her First Draft interviews here and here)


Zan Romanoff (listen to her First Draft interview here)

Emerson College

Alloy Entertainment

Wesleyan University

Jodi Picoult

Morgan Matson and her book SAVE THE DATE (listen to her First Draft interviews here and here)



The Office (TV show)

Lisa Schroeder

Direct download: KatieCotugno_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 10:56am PDT

Emily X. R. Pan, debut author of the New York Times bestselling THE ASTONISHING COLOR OF AFTER, talks about how she discovered her creative life after going to business school, her many years of writing and re-writing her book, and finding her bravery to put herself on the page.

Emily X. R. Pan Show notes:

Little Brown Books for Young Readers

The Claiming of Sleeping Beauty by Anne Rice

NYU Stern School of Business

Penguin (now Penguin Random House)

Professor Chuck Wachtel at NYU



Losing Face” in Chinese culture


Mahayana Buddhism

Coco (movie)

Noggin by John Corey Whaley

FORESHADOW: A Serial YA Anthology

Direct download: EmilyXRPan_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 11:43am PDT

Brendan Kiely, author of THE GOSPEL OF WINTER, THE LAST TRUE LOVE STORY, and co-author of ALL AMERICAN BOYS. His newest novel, TRADITION, is an exploration of the insidious nature of tradition at a prestigious boarding school. Brendan talks about the nature of authorship, the heroic value of humility, and working hard to not have an office.


Brendan Kiely Show Notes

Victoria Aveyard (listen to her First Draft interviews here and here)

Jessie Chaffee (Brendan’s wife)

When I Was the Greatest by Jason Reynolds

Rob Weisbach (Brendan’s agent)

Leigh Bardugo (listen to her First Draft interviews here and here)

Chris Lynch (YA author)

John Corey Whaley (listen to his First Draft interview here)

Black Lives Matter

Boy in the Black Suit by Jason Reynolds

As Brave As You by Jason Reynolds

I Have the Right To by Chessy Prout

Paradise Lost by John Milton
Wildfang’s Wild Feminist line (Portland clothing line)

Four Forms of Identity, the concept of Achieved Identity

Direct download: Kiely_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 10:12am PDT

Adrienne Young, New York Times bestselling author of SKY IN THE DEEP, talks about having a no-boundaries critique partner relationship, unhealthy (but effective) drafting processes, and how Saturn’s return led to her debut novel.


Adrienne Young Show Notes

Edward Scissorhands (movie)

Labyrinth (movie)

The Nightmare Before Christmas (movie)

Beetlejuice (movie)

Kristin Dwyer

Mysterious Galaxy

Direct download: Adrienne_Young_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 8:28am PDT

Caroline Kepnes—author of YOU and its sequel HIDDEN BODIES, soon to be a Lifetime drama series starring Penn Badgley—talks about her most recent novel, PROVIDENCE, talks about her Cape Cod sensibility, writing while literally regaining her voice, and having her writing debut in Sassy magazine.


Caroiine Kepnes Show Notes

Go here to vote for PROVIDENCE to be the first-ever pick for the Tonight Show Book Club

And be sure to tune in to LIFETIME on September, 9, 2018 at 10/9 CT for the premiere of YOU!

Hop on Pop

Richard Scarry

Beezus and Ramona

Judy Blume

Sweet Valley High

Sassy magazine

Christina Kelly (editor of Sassy magazine)

“She Talks to Angels” by the Black Crowes (song)

YM Magazine

School Ties (movie)

Chris O’Donnell (actor)

Brown (university)

Parker Posey (actor)

Courtney Summers (listen to her First Draft interview here)

Conan O’Brien


Backstreet Boys

Tiger Beat

New Kids on the Block

Entertainment Weekly

KGB Bar & Lit Journal

7th Heaven (TV show)

Cedar Cove (TV show)
Lucinda Rosenfeld (author)

Direct download: Caroline_Kepnes_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 1:02pm PDT

Aminah Mae Safi, debut author of NOT THE GIRLS YOU’RE LOOKING FOR, talks about writing hangry characters, trying to make fetch happen in a book, how fantasy stories hold an inherent appeal to children of immigrants, and how artists have to have batshit belief in themselves.

Aminah Mae Safi Show Notes

Lauren Anderson (first black female ballet dancer, in Houston)


Reza Aslan

Inigo Montoya

Kirsten Hubbard (her First Draft interview here)

Article about foreign translators talking about interpreting President Trump

Emmanuel Macron

The Los Angeles Times Festival of Books

Brandy Colbert

The Never-Ending Story (movie)

Winter of Fire book by Sherryl Jordan

Bachelorette (movie)

Mean Girls (movie)

The Scarlet Letter

Winona Ryder

The Crucible

Demi Moore

Direct download: Aminah_Mae_Safi_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 12:00am PDT

Maurene Goo, author of SINCE YOU ASKED, I BELIEVE IN A THING CALLED LOVE and the recently-released THE WAY YOU MAKE ME FEEL, joins me to talk about planning book launches. Then, hear the live audio from when I helped Maurene launch THE WAY YOU MAKE ME FEEL at The Ripped Bodice in Culver City, California.


Maurene Goo Show Notes

Brandy Colbert

Stephanie Kuehn

CVT Soft Serve (food truck)

The Ripped Bodice (bookstore)

Fierce Reads

Riverdale (TV show)

Vroman’s Bookstore

Edward Cullen

Glow (TV show)

La Brea Tar Pits

Griffith Park Observatory

John Cho

Jem and the Holograms (movie)

The Hindenburg disaster

Scott Campbell (illustrator)

Thor: Ragnarok (movie)

Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle (movie

Guardians of the Galaxy 2 (movie)

Taran Matharu (author)

Tricia Levenseller (author)

Mary Pearson (author)

Hathaways series by Lisa Kleypas

Art Boss by Kayla Cagan

The Song of the Current by Sarah Tolcser

Sadie by Courtney Summers

The Sun is Also a Star by Nicola Yoon

Far From the Tree by Robin Benway

Tell Me Everything by Sarah Enni

Morgan Matson

New Girl (TV show)

Rainbow Rowell

Judy Blume


Direct download: Maurene_book_launch_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 12:00am PDT

Morgan Matson, New York Times bestselling author of THE UNEXPECTED EVERYTHING, SINCE YOU’VE BEEN GONE, and her latest YA, SAVE THE DATE, talks about having the eleventh book be the hardest yet, “flashpoint” stories, the Morganverse, her unusual editing process, and writing a book in movies’ clothing.


Morgan Matson 2.0 Show Notes

The Unexpected Everything by Morgan Matson

For Better or For Worse (comic strip)

Noises Off by Michael Frayn

Morgan’s first First Draft episode

Katie Finn (Morgan’s alter ego)

Foxtrot (comic strip)

Calvin & Hobbes (comic strip)

Doonsebury (comic strip)

Justin Chanda, Vice President and Publisher at Simon and Schuster

Diya Mishra

Father of the Bride (movie)

Sixteen Candles (movie)

The Family Stone (movie)

Rachel Getting Married (movie)

Frasier (TV show)

Friends (TV show)

Noises Off (movie)

Susan Dennard

Direct download: Morgan_Matson_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 6:00am PDT

Francesca Lia Block, author of more than 25 books, including seminal YA novel Weetzie Bat, talks about her most recent book, THE THORN NECKLACE, a memoir-driven guide to healing through the craft of writing. Francesca talks about meshing her life with that of her most favorite character, shares some incredibly useful writing exercises, and talks about *when* to do research.


Francesca Lia Block Show Notes

Joni Mitchell

Harry Houdini

Linda Venis, former head of the UCLA extension Writers Program

H.D., “Sea Rose

The Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde

Jill Alexander Essbaum

Fairies in the Kitchen: The Weetzie Bat Cookbook by Carmen Staton and Francesca Lia Block

The Midnight Disease by Alice W. Flaherty


Writing as a Way of Healing: How Telling Our Stories Transforms Our Lives by Louise DeSalvo

Bird by Bird: Some Instructions on Writing and Life by Anne Lamott

Mrs. Dalloway by Virginia Woolf

Direct download: Francesca_Lia_Block_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 12:00am PDT

Emily Wibberley and Austin Siegemund-Broka, soon-to-be-married couple and co-authors of debut, ALWAYS NEVER YOURS (out now!), talk about the joke that brought them together, having co-writing modeled for them by Emily’s parents, and the fact that “whom” will never be in a YA contemporary.

Austin Siegemund-Broka and Emily Wibberley Show Notes

Cormac and Marianne Wibberley, screenwriting couple who wrote films such as National Treasure

Why Won’t You Date Me (podcast) with Nicole Byer

21 Jump Street (movie)

The Hate U Give by Angie Thomas
Children of Blood and Bone by Tomi Adeyemi

Direct download: Austin_and_Emily_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 12:00am PDT

Becky Albertalli, New York Times bestselling author of LEAH ON THE OFF BEAT, SIMON VERSUS THE HOMO SAPIENS AGENDA, and co-author of WHAT IF IT’S US, with Adam Silvera, due out in October. Becky talks about how seeing Simon become a movie made her want to write more cinematically, how good AND bad news can be paralyzing while you are revising on deadline, her number one OTP, and retconning her own series and characters.


Becky Albertalli Show Notes

Margot Wood from Epic Reads

Greg Berlanti

Isaac Aptaker and Elizabeth Berger who wrote This is Us (TV show) and the script for Love, Simon

Isaac Klausner

Aminah Mae Safi

Adam Silvera (listen to his First Draft interview here)

Brooks Sherman

More Happy Than Not by Adam Silvera

John Green

Direct download: Becky_Albertalli_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 10:29pm PDT

Victoria Aveyard, whose latest novel, WAR STORM, is the final volume in the New York Times best-selling RED QUEEN series, talks about how Harry Potter led her to value fat books, balancing fan expectations with the demands of story, promo vs. creative mode, and staying hydrated on planes.


Victoria Aveyard 2.0 Show Notes

Victoria Aveyard’s first First Draft podcast

Suzie Townsend (literary agent)

New Leaf Literary


Avengers: Infinity War (movie)

Empire podcast about Infinity War

The Lord of the Rings by J. R. R. Tolkien

The Mark Duplass interview on Pete Holmes’ You Made it Weird Podcast

Direct download: Victoria_Aveyard_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 9:06am PDT

Britta Lundin, whose debut novel SHIP IT, is out now, talks about being a TV writer (Riverdale), choosing to tell queer stories, and being shaped by her fandoms. 

Direct download: Britta_Lundin_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 8:41am PDT

Shane Pangburn and Tori Hill, producers of the YALLWEST book festival, on starting operations off a wedding budget, sending S.O.S. emails, and operating in good faith with festival organizers.

Tori Hill and Shane Pangburn, producers of YALLWEST, Show Notes

Margaret Stohl

Beautiful Creatures by Margaret Stohl and Kami Garcia

Pseudonymous Bosch

Lewis Peterson, co-author of Cats vs. Robots with Margaret Stohl


Blue Bicycle Books

Santa Monica Public Library

Teen ambassadors

Maret Orliss, Associate Director of Programming at the LA Times (listen to her First Draft interview here)

Writeopia Labs

Direct download: Shane__Tori_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 8:41am PDT

Kirsten Hubbard, author of YA novels Like Mandarin and Wanderlove, as well as middle grade novels Watch the Sky, Race the Night, and most recently, Secrets of Topsea: A Friendly Town That’s Almost Always By the Ocean (as Kir Fox, co-written with Michelle Schusterman, as M. Shelley Coats), talks about the time both of our lives simultaneously blew up, and how we helped each other rebuild. Also: how having a twin means she’s always written for an audience, the pleasures of re-reading, and writing with ADHD.


Kirsten Hubbard Show Notes

Maurene Goo (listen to her First Draft interviews here and here)

Egmont USA closing

Kaitlin Ward (listen to her First Draft interview here)

Sideways Stories from Wayside School by Louis Sachar

Welcome to Night Vale (podcast)

New Leaf Literary, and agents Jo Volpe, Suzie Townsend, and Kirsten’s current agent, Jordan Hamessley

Sarah Davies at Greenhouse Literary

Roald Dahl

YA Highway

Direct download: 4.24_Kristen_Hubbard_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 10:12am PDT

Maret Orliss, Associate Director of Events Programming for the Los Angeles Times Festival of Books, talks about how authors can stand out to festival programmers, what the L.A. Times is doing in response to sexual harassment accusations in the book world, and the best Margaret Atwood festival story.


Maret Orliss Show Notes

Cecil Castellucci

Lisa Yee

The Handmaid’s Tale by Margaret Atwood

Orange is the New Black by Piper Kerman

Reading Aloud, Nate Corddry’s books podcast

Brandy Colbert

Amy Spalding

John Scalzi

Roxane Gay

Jacqueline Woodson

Far From the Tree by Robin Benway

Little & Lion by Brandy Colbert

I Believe in a Thing Called Love by Maurene Goo

The Way You Make Me Feel by Maurene Goo

Not the Girls You’re Looking For by Aminah Mae Safi

Grace and the Fever by Zan Romanoff

I’ll Be Gone in the Dark: One Woman’s Obsessive Search for the Golden State Killer by Michelle McNamara

Patton Oswalt

The Wedding Date by Jasmine Guillory

Her new book, The Proposal

Sophia of Silicon Valley by Anna Yen

Stealing the Show: How Women Are Revolutionizing Television by Joy Press

Murphy Brown (TV show)

You Play the Girl by Carina Chocano, winner of the National Book Critics Circle Award

This Will Be My Undoing: Living at the Intersection of Black, Female, and Feminist in (White) Amerca by Morgan Jerkins

Queer Eye (TV show)

Direct download: Maret_Oriss_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 10:04am PDT

Sara Saedi, author of NEVER EVER and its sequel, THE LOST KIDS (out today!), as well as YA memoir AMERICANIZED: REBEL WITHOUT A GREEN CARD, talks about her earliest boy-meets-girl story, how being the child of immigrants made her write her first screenplay, soap operas as writing boot camp,the blessing of living in the time of email, and putting a narrative onto your own life.


Sara Saedi Show Notes

Cocktail (movie)

Rain Man (movie)

The Babysitter’s Club by Ann M. Martin

Brooke Bowman

She’s All That (movie)

M. Night Shyalaman

Tom Jacobson (producer)

The Goodwin Games (TV show)

How I Met Your Mother (TV show)

Carter Bays

Craig Thomas

Scott Foley

Jess Regel at Foundry Literary

"The Silicon Valley Suicides," by Hanna Rosin in The Atlantic

Perfect Strangers (TV show)

iZombie (TV show)

John August (listen to his First Draft interview here)

Launch, the podcast about John’s book

Rob Thomas (iZOmbie, Veronica Mars)


Direct download: Sara_Saedi_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 9:01am PDT

Ava Dellaira--whose most recent novel, In Search of Us, is out now!--talks about adapting her first novel into a screenplay, the mixed blessing of selling on proposal, and how she never could have written this book after becoming a mother.


Ava Dellaira 2.0 Show Notes

Love Letters to the Dead by Ava Dellaira

Stephen Chbosky, author of The Perks of Being a Wallflower

The Perks of Being a Wallflower (movie)

The Fault in Our Stars (movie)

Twilight (movie)

The Maze Runner (movie)

Paper Towns (movie)

This Is Us (TV show)

Direct download: Ava_Dellaira_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 8:46am PDT

Amy Spalding--whose most recent novel, THE SUMMER OF JORDI PEREZ (AND THE BEST BURGER IN LOS ANGELES), is out today!--talks about the experience of changing publishers, how book promo is becoming more like movie promo, finding a story by combining ideas, and having more queer rom-coms.


Amy Spalding 2.0 Show Notes

Amy’s first episode on First Draft

The Fault in Our Stars by John Green

Scriptnotes with John August and Craig Mazin

Love, Simon (movie)

The Hate U Give by Angie Thomas

Kissing Jessica Stein (movie)

Simon vs. the Homo Sapiens Agenda by Becky Albertali

Sky Pony (publisher)

Fun Home by Alison Bechdel

Fun Home (musical)

The Last Five Years (musical)

The Last Five Years (movie)

Direct download: Amy_Spalding_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 10:05am PDT

Alex R. Kahlerauthor of RUNEBINDER and its sequel, RUNEBREAKER (out in November) the CIRQUE DES IMMORTALES series, THE PALE QUEEN series, the RAVENBORN series, and forthcoming middle grade book, THE COLLECTOR. Alex talks about the burden of taking your work with you, reimagining previous work, the freelance lifestyle, and getting off social media.


Alex R. Kahler 2.0 Show Notes

Alex’s first First Draft episode

Alex’s B&N Teen blog post

Westworld (tv series)

Zan Romanoff’s tinyletter

Direct download: Alex_Kahler_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 10:31am PDT

Farrah Penn, debut author of Twelve Steps to Normal, on not loving learning how to read, almost giving up on her book after her father passed, and the injustice of having a trailer full of your things stolen in Arizona.


Farrah Penn Show Notes

Hooked on Phonics

American Girl books

Zenon: Girl of the 21st Century (TV movie)

Wendy Tolliver

Agent Query

Query Tracker

The Hunger Games

Suzie Townsend (literary agent)

Fine Print Literary

Stephanie Perkins

Sarah Dessen

Fall Out Boy

Panic! At the Disco

I Believe in a Thing Called Love by Maurene Goo

Corrie Shatto

The Astonishing Color of After by Emily X R Pan

Farrah’s articles on Buzzfeed

"I'm Still Learning How to Talk About My Father's Alcholism," Farrah’s article on growing up with a parent suffering from alcoholism

Direct download: Farah_Penn_FINAL.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 3:45pm PDT

Tomi Adeyemi, debut author of Children of Blood and Bone, on thinking she hated reading and writing, spite creativity, and how fantasy helped protect her from the raw pain in her book.

Tomi Adeyemi Show Notes

The Hunger Games (movie)

 Tomi’s blog post, "Why I Write: Telling a Story That Matters."

Black Panther

Avatar: The Last Airbender (TV show)

Ryan Coogler (director)

Launch (podcast)

The Hate U Give by Angie Thomas

Miles Morales by Jason Reynolds

Sign up for Tomi’s newsletter

Direct download: 3.13_Tomi_Adeyemi_FINAL.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 10:10am PDT

Lianne Oelke, debut author of NICE TRY, JANE SINNER (out now!) talks about rewriting her diary, the life-changing impact of good beta readers, and writing YA in Canada.

Lianne Oelke Show Notes

Lord of the Rings by J. R. R. Tolkien

Alice, I Think by Susan Juby

Fangirl by Rainbow Rowell

American Panda by Gloria Chao

The Big F by Maggie M. Martin

Fat Girl on a Plane by Kelly DuVoss

Becky Albertalli

Brooks Sherman

Kat and Meg Conquer the World by Anna Priemaza

Direct download: ReplacementForLianne.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 10:02am PDT

Dhonielle Clayton, New York Times bestselling author of The Belles (out now!) talks about her teacup obsession, the hell that is Act II Part II, and revision versus Revision.


Dhonielle Clayton 2.0 Show Notes

Girls on Fire by Robin Wasserman

Dhonielle's first First Draft interview here

Elissa Sussman (listen to her First Draft interview here)

Delia*s cataloge

Prognosis: Love & Death by Sona Charaipotra (hear her First Draft interview here)

Kieran Scott, editor at Disney

Emily Meehan, publisher at Disney

Cynthia Leitich-Smith (listen to her First Draft interview here)

The Trouble with Shooting Stars by Megan Cannistra

Harriet the Spy by Louise Fitzhugh

Sister Wives

Outlander by Diana Gabaldon

Outlander (TV show)

The Fosters (TV show)

Shadowhunters: The Mortal Instruments (TV show)

Famous in Love (TV show)

Direct download: Dhonielle_Clayton_2.0_FINALEDIT.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 12:47pm PDT

Amy Andelson and Emily Meyer, screenwriters with their debut young adult novel, LAYOVER, out now!, on being housecats, blurring the line between best friends and collaborators, their annual “corporate retreat” road trip, and complementing each other emotionally through the editing process.


Amy Anderson and Emily Meyer Show Notes

Finding Yvonne by Brandy Colbert

Louisa May Alcott

Edith Wharton

I Hate Everyone But You by Gaby Dunn and Alison Raskin (listen to their First Draft interview here)

Gossip Girl (TV show)

John M. Chu (director)

the Step Up movies

The Great Gatsby (the Baz Lurhman film)

Naomi and Ely’s No Kiss List (movie)

Nick & Nora’s Infinite Playlist by David Leviathan and Rachel Cohn (sp)

John Green

Twilight by Stephenie Meyer

The Hunger Games by Suzanne Collins

John Hughes

Book Soup in Los Angeles

Direct download: Amy_Andelson_and_Emily_Meyer_FINALEDIT.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 11:53am PDT

Sasha Alsberg and Lindsay Cummings, co-authors of the New York Times bestselling sci-fi novel ZENITH, talk about battling dyslexia/ADD and chronic fatigue, why Lindsay dedicates every book she writes to her father, thinking that writers were cyborgs and/or holograms, deciding to co-write over text, and leaving the subject of their book up to a Twitter poll (but then ignoring it).


Sasha Alsburg and Lindsay Cummings

SHIP IT by Britta Lundin

The Percy Jackson series by Rick Riordan

The Chronicles of Narnia by C.S. Lewis

Harry Potter by J. K. Rowling

The Hunger Games by Suzanne Collins

The Mortal Instruments series by Cassandra Clare

The Murder Complex by Lindsay Cummings

City of Bones (movie)

Lily Collins

Firefly (TV show)

Sasha’s book tube channel, ABookUtopia

Lindsay’s book tube channel

Guardians of the Galaxy (movie)

Peter Knapp at Park Literary

Jo Volpe at New Leaf literary

The Wayside Inn

Mean Girls (movie)

The Hate U Give by Angie Thomas

Love, Hate, and Other Filters by Samira Ahmed

Veronica Roth (listen to her First Draft interview here and here)

Direct download: Sasha_Alsburg_and_Lindsay_Cummings_3.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 3:21pm PDT

John August—screenwriter known for Go, Big Fish, and more, and host of the Scriptnotes podcast—on his debut middle grade adventure novel, ARLO FINCH IN THE VALLEY OF FIRE (out Feb. 6!). John talks about the tricks authors have that screenwriters don’t, what made him think of recording his entire process of writing, selling, and debuting ARLO, the shadow of Harry Potter over all MG, and podcasting as an American art form.


John August Show Notes

Go (movie)

Big Fish (movie)

Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (movie)

Aladdin (movie)

Scriptnotes (podcast)

Launch (podcast)

Alfred Hitchcock Presents: The Three Investigators (book)

Premiere Magazine

Nora Ephron

Steven Soderbergh

Sex Lies and Videotape (movie)

Star Trek: The Next Generation

Their Eyes Were Watching God by Zora Neale Hurston

Charlie’s Angels (movie)

A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L’Engle

How to Eat Fried Worms by Thomas Rockwell

Craig Mazin (screenwriter)

Serial (podcast)

John Gruber’s podcast, The Talk Show

John’s blog post about writing Arlo Finch

The Nest by Kenneth Oppel

To Kill a Mockingbird by Harper Lee

The Percy Jackson series by Rick Riordan

The Magnus Chase series by Rick Riordan

Lord of the Flies by William Golding

Call Me By Your Name (movie)

Call Me By Your Name by André Aciman (book)

Story of a T-Shirt” by Planet Money

Startup (podcast)

Robert Ludlum

Ira Glass

Freedom app


Direct download: John_August.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 5:40pm PDT

Jasmine Guillory, debut author of The Wedding Date (out Jan. 30!), on being an extroverted writer, using the notes app to take the pressure off starting a new book, the importance of stillness, and how romance novels can instruct us about affirmative consent.


Jasmine Guillory Show Notes

Are You Sleeping by Kathleen Barber

The Toast

The “Shoe” books, starting with Ballet Shoes by Noel Streatfeild

Anne of Green Gables by L. M. Montgomery

Betsy-Tacy by Maud Hart Lovelace

Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.)

Amy Spalding (listen to her First Draft interview here)

Jennifer Laughran, agent with Andrea Brown Literary Agency

NaNoWriMo’s Camp NaNoWriMo

Holly Root (literary agent)

Bridesmaids (movie)

Lola and the Boy Next Door by Stephanie Perkins

The Ripped Bodice romance bookstore

The Ripped Bodice's diversity survey in EW and in The New York Times

Kate Hart’s breakdown of YA covers in 2011 (click around her archives for many other posts Kate put together on YA covers and deals)

Jasmine’s NaNoWriMo pep talk

Roxane Gay

Mallory Ortberg

The Proposal, Jasmine's next book

The 2018 First Draft calendar

Kirsten Hubbard

Direct download: Jasmine_Guillory_FINALEDIT.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 11:43am PDT

Sarah Tarkoff, debut author of SINLESS (out now!), talks about writing for TV and movies, made-up religions, the Dunning Kruger graph, and being inspired to start writing a novel by a nine-year-old.

Sarah Tarkoff Show Notes

2018 First Draft calendar - order yours now!

Kirsten Hubbard

Arrow (TV show)

Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (movie)

Jane the Virgin (TV show)

Eastwick (TV show)

Maggie Friedman (show runner of Eastiwck)

Wendy Mericle (EP on Arrow)

Mistresses (TV show)

Josh Reims (Mistresses)

Gossip Girl (TV show)

Cat’s Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut

Chris Evans on Twitter

Jenny Slate

Willem Dafoe

Dunning-Kruger effect

The announcement that SINLESS has been optioned for TV!

Raiders of the Lost Ark (Indiana Jones (movie))

The Love that Split the World by Emily Henry

Feb. 4 book launch of John August’s ARLO FINCH IN THE VALLEY OF FIRE

The Feb. 6 book panel with Dhonielle Clayton, Marie Lu, Aaron Hartzler, Gretchen McNeill, Brandy Colbert, and Britta Lundin

Direct download: Sarah_Tarkoff_FINALEDIT.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 11:25am PDT

A very special episode where I give podcasting tips and answer some questions, Kayla Olson and Courtney Summers join to give book recommendations, and authors Michelle Schusterman, Alison Cherry, and Lindsay Ribar discuss co-writing, selling, and editing their YA novel, The Pros of Cons.


Special Episode (feat. Kayla Olson, Courtney Summers, Michelle Schusterman, Alison Cherry, and Lindsay Ribar)

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Zoom H4N

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Maurene Goo

Grace and the Fever by Zan Romanoff (listen to her First Draft interview here)

The Sandcastle Empire by Kayla Olson (listen to her First Draft interview here)

This Splintered Silence by Kayla Olson

Gray Wolf Island by Tracey Neithercott

This Mortal Coil by Emily Suvada

Follow Me Back by A. V. Geiger

The Disappearances by Emily Bain Murphy

Eliza and Her Monsters by Francesca Zappia

Cracked Up to Be by Courtney Summers (listen to her First Draft interview here)

All the Rage by Courtney Summers

Malagash by Joey Comeau

When I Am Through With You by Stephanie Kuehn

Robert Cormier

The Pros of Cons by Michelle Schusterman (hear her First Draft interview here), Lindsay RibarAlison Cherry (hear her First Draft interview here)


Matt Ringler (editor at Scholastic)

Amanda Maciel (editor at Scholastic, author of Tease and Lucky Girl)

The starred Publisher’s Weekly review for Pros of Cons

Best. Night. Ever. by Alison Cherry, Jen Malone, Rachel Alpine, Ronni Arno, Stephanie Faris, Gail Nall, and Dee Romito.

Secrets of Topsea: A Friendly Town That’s Almost Always by the Ocean by Michelle Schusterman (as M. Shelley Coates) and Kirsten Hubbard (as Kir Fox)

Spell and Spindle by Michelle Schusterman

Ella Unleashed by Alison Cherry

Michael Dante DiMartino, co-creator of Avatar: The Last Airbender and author of Rebel Genius and its sequel, Warrior Genius, on being obsessed with 50s art, how Avatar was pitched perfectly wrong, writing art as magic, and starting to write by hand.


Michael Dante DiMartino Show Notes

The 2018 First Draft calendar

Kirsten Hubbard

William S. Burroughs

Beat poetry

Garfield (comic)

Bloom County (comic)

Abstract expressionism

Jackson Pollock

Mark Rothko

Willem de Kooning

Brian Konietzko, co-creator of Avatar: The Last Airbender

King of the Hill (TV show)

Beavis and Butthead (TV show)

Atomic Love

Family Guy (TV show)

Mission Hill (TV show)

Invader Zim (TV show)

Spongebob Squarepants (TV show)

Hayao Miyazaki

The Hero with 10,000 Faces by Joseph Campbell

Bill Moyer's video series, discussing The Hero’s Journey with Joseph Campbell

G.I. Joe (animated TV show)

Leigh Bardugo (hear her First Draft episodes here and here)

Nickelodeon Animation podcast featuring Michael and Brian

Story by Robert McKee

My Name is Asher Lev by Chaim Potok

The Fountainhead by Ayn Rand

"An Oral History of the Funniest Podcast Ever," Daily Beast article featuring the quote from Scott Aukerman

Bottle Episode (what we called "box episodes")

The Fly episode of Breaking Bad

William James Royce

The Story Grid by Shawn Coyne

The Story Grid Podcast

Direct download: Michael_Dante_DiMartino_FINALEDIT.mp3
Category:Literature -- posted at: 12:05pm PDT